Music phone with quality DAC

[Sanjivnayak]

Samsung should start a new series of cell phone for music lovers with introduction of a good quality DAC chip preferably from ESS , AKM , Burr Brown, delta sigma. Camera features has much talked about and even budget phones now equipped with a decent camera. Samsung should match up with iPhone's great sound quality. Do you guys agree or not?

[TimonN]

Thanks for reply.
1) You need to then have comparison as iphone + airpod max as combo comparison Vs Samsung. Here also if you compare LG V30+ with good quality wired headphones ,it beats Apple. So point of not taking Apple as benchmark in sound quality is still valid.

2) V30+ has much much better sound output via 3.5mm jack + Good quality wired headphones Vs Apple iPhone with any Wired headphones.
I never said V30+ has both better 3.5mm jack output AND better speakers. There are many other phones (Gaming phones like ROG) which have much better stereo speakers output when compared to iphones.
3) Already clarified.
4) Wired audio is not very much there. With current trends of TWS and many companies removing ports , I do not see at least in mobile phones that. Sad but true. Here I am talking about mobiles only.
When I meant Sony , LG, they are still leading brands in other areas of electronics and only their mobiles have kept 3.5 mm jack.
I do not see any cheap and also high quality sound which 3.5 mm jack provides with other tech (wireless OR Type C).

Cheap( As it is still being used in many other electronics, no hassle of charging, easily available).

Overall my main point was Apple should not be benchmark for Samsung in terms of Audio quality (whether wired OR wireless) as there are others in market who have done better.
I hope you agree with this.

[Sanjivnayak]

Cameroon explains in the article why normally iphone sounds better than android phones. Importance of dac and why lg v30 overtakes the apple. later on also I will share some leading and trusted websites which reaffirms the quality of sound that iphone produces.
https://www.howtogeek.com/359464/why-do-iphones-generally-have-better-sound-quality-than-android/

[TimonN]

As I said I have personally used LG V30+ for 3 years and Asus ROG3 for few days. Had chance to compare sound quality with iPhone 11 Pro.

I can clearly say V30+ produces much better sound quality via 3.5mm jack Vs iphone , using various wired headphones.

ROG3 has much better built-in stereo speakers Vs iPhone.

I definitely value my own comparison experience over online posts or videos.

Also please note that article is saying "generally".

My point was very clear and simple.
iPhone is not benchmark in terms of sound quality. There are better options in Android world.

[Sanjivnayak]

your personal evaluation hardly matters as you are not an audiophile analyst. Persons well acclaimed in this field are read and followed by millions. you seem to be an exception.

[TimonN]

Please read that article again. You seem to have drawn wrong conclusions.
It not claiming that Apple has best audio quality and All Android phones are lagging behind.

In fact it is saying "generally" iPhone sound better.

Also I do not need certificate from someone else to know what is better , especially when I have checked those things personally and definitely I consider myself to be more aware about sound quality compared to others.
That's reason I was using LG V30+ for such a long time.

[Sanjivnayak]

I have also said V30 sounds better than iphone. but why because it has a better dac. My point is why only one or two model may be v20 also has a Quad in it. Iphone 4 also I know was talked about for its excellent sound. Generally means all models of iphone are better not one or two. iphone has its research and its hardware software are awesome. I need not say a word. The whole industry Android is on the other side.

[Sanjivnayak]

LG V30+ has not done any magic. The DAC they have simply borrowed. No R&D by LG. Do they have a presence in any audio gears such as preamplifier, poweramp, phonostage, Speaker, dac, TT, AVR, IC, cables. They have only craps as some poor quality headphones as far as I know.
Who do you think is benchmark device in sound quality? Just let me know if you claim that you know everything just because you own a V30+.

[TimonN]

Bro , I am just countering YOUR claim that Apple is best in terms of sound quality.
And yes LG V30+ which is 3 year old beats Iphone 12 Pro Max even today on 3.5mm jack.

If there are other devices better than it right now then I am not commenting on that.

But that does NOT make YOUR statement valid.

So stick to point and present your logic , do not bring other points here.

[Sanjivnayak]

Sir. Just found out that V30+ is just an LG-branded Google pixel 2XL. So whatever you are telling not just the DAC even the phone also done by the help of Google pixel team. Copy cats. Pls don't compare any more with Apple.

[Sanjivnayak]

In case you want to know more and open, I can give some pointers.