a little samsung introspection

[hedgehog]

I've been thinking lately if any one of you remember when windows 7 came out and to get the OEM dvd the drives for laptop and desktop were different versions nd sizes later which was corrected in windows 10 version and it became automatic because you had to download after checking device compatibility and no cd for win 10 was available I think just like that the one ui2 needs to be tailored you know it's like samsung has made a hummer engine and is putting it in every model car it can find you can't put a hummer engine in a activa scooty same way I feel the one ui 2 needs to be tailored for individual devices with individual features supporting each device. Having such a large software division samsung should make seperate software for the device for example the one ui 2 for note 10 plus cannot work for a50 or m30s I think samsung feels that the one ui 2 it has created is one software for all No it isn't you see in one device a flagship one ui 2 has no problem and in a mid range phone the software causes lagging heating freezing burn-in screen and display biometric malfunction and list goes on some have missed updates others are crying and cussing samsung I think as per device specs the software should launch with device specific dates for example all a50 devices will get their patch or update on this date or all m30 users or all s9plus users will get on that date I mean device specific updates on specified date. That way each device will have hardware spec based one ui 2 or any such software and less problems because if you load ahummee engine in a maruti of course the vehicle won't run and it's mechnicals will damage same is with A and M series phones u can't just impose one ui 2 and think one ui 2 is for all devices that's why in flagships it's working fine leaving a few while in mid range phones the software is causing heavy burden on system to processor with such huge software it should be tailored for individual series to handle and work accordingly with their unique features. Because u see in a50 32mp camera changed to 21mp that means the zoom capability and the image quality is gone down even though the hardware remains same. I feel bad and cheated on Samsung's part to not pay attention to such details. You can't expect one software to work in all devices because one that is meant for flagship won't work in a mid range phone  which is why same repetative problems of battery lagging heating freezing network hangs and drops connection and what not the same problems are rising in huge numbers worldwide which is why the software needs tailoring as per device specs which will what make one ui 2 unique because if each phone will have their enhanced features the difference is what will create a choice for users to trust samsung. And I believe even many will disagree with me on this point but be it any processor Snapdragon or Exynos both are good it's the burden of running a heavy software with basic specs is what is making devices suffer in processing. I'm not saying Snapdragon is not fast than Exynos that's a different topic what I mean be it any processor like in a70 a71 you have Snapdragon still lag heating freezing network problems why? It's Snapdragon it's supposed to be the best in processing but why the lag I feel the software needs tuning you can't give a software and expect it to work in every device for ex. if in note 10 plus the one ui 2 size is 6gb for a50 or m30 or m30s it should be around 3.5 or 4gb only I mean full software but in different size with device specific features making them different form each other just like you have in win 10 when u download the central microsoft server understands by checking your device all hardware and size of device then only it gives a version that'll fit in the device like saying in a tablet running intel atom and a laptop running core i5 and in a gaming laptop running core i9 the version and speed or software working is different and hence be it any device tablet laptop or desktop the win 10 runs smoothly because it recognises the size of processor and provides just apt size of software you can't run laptop version in tablet pc because processors are different so shod be in samsung for different meaning software meant for note 10 can't run in m30 or one meant for a50 will not run in s9 plus which is why there are so mny problems its not the bugs but the device can't handle the huge software an dits processing power goes down and hence it juices out the battery causing problems of all sorts

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Let me know what do you think apart from processor

[hedgehog]

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[immi007]

they had us in the name .... yeah for the sake of brand..

[Sciphile]

First of all, stop comparing apples to oranges. Windows is not like Android, it was designed keeping in mind the range of devices it should work on. And tablet mode and laptop mode are inbuilt into the system

Second, there are two different versions of One UI. M Series owners use the One UI Core version of Android which is just a stripped down version of One UI. Your point becomes invalid that Samsung is providing the same update to all their device. No, they are not..

Every OS update is tailored to the hardware it is supposed to run on. Don't think like, Oh Samsung just develops ONE UI for flagships and it just simply ships them to the mid range devices as well without tweaking the code. This isn't how OS update works. If that would have been the case then why does Samsung takes so much time to release major OS updates, even security updates takes too much time to be released.

And please what part of the forum do you browse buddy. The time since I'm active in this forum, I know much about the M Series devices. The users who are generally complaining are the ones who are usually asking for more features like Goodlock support, Samsung Pay support, Knox Security, Secure Folder and extra.. The one's who are complaining about lags and heating issues is common for every devices including your so called note and S series devices too. So, I don't know what are you trying to imply over here with all your introspection.

I myself use M30s and I don't face any problems that you have stated in your post above and I have users from the S series and Nite Series complaining about the same issue like battery drain and heating but I don't seem to single out only a certain series. The problem is not limited to only M and A series devices, Note and S series users are no different.

No offense, but I found it rather poorly researched

[Vishanavi]

His comparison with windows may be wrong. But at the end of the day, our community is bombarded with 2️⃣.0️⃣ related issues on M series and you forced to reset your phone once as well.

No offense, something went wrong somewhere.

[Sciphile]

None taken Vishanavi

I felt it was wrong to say that one ui the hummer engine as he proclaims was designed for flagships only and that's why other mid range users are having issues, bollockss.

I myself faced issue after updating to Android 10 but a factory reset did set things right. So maybe the update wasn't the issue, maybe the issue lies in how it's being delivered something is happening during the installation process. Samsung is still using the old way of updating Operating System. A recent article claimed that Samsung has still not implemented seamless updates which is quite an old feature now. That could have been a reason too.

[Anonymous]

@Sciphile its not about factory reset....for eg A50 was a trial and eror model for samsung. I have been seing A50 issues since Aug 2019...Sammy is like trial and error just like Tata's who just launch a product, experience user feedback and launch a little bit better product like A50S. Since the launch of A50S no user of A50S has suffered so much like the A50. And seamless updates is difficlut as samsung dies not have A/B partition. I agree with Mapledew that they need align their products with a Base No matter you have a flagship or Mid range phone

[Sciphile]

@imprompt, bro that's how all this work you release a product and next year you try to refine it more and we all know how obvious it is in case of Samsung. Take the M30 device just like A50 an upgraded model was launched M30s and not even six months had passed there comes M31. Samsung just wants 💰, And brand value goes low very steep. You can't resell your flagship without incurring heavy losses.

But I completely agree with you on the point that Samsung needs to focus on quality rather than quantity. The quality of software will improve when the number of devices to be updated will be less. But that's not going to happen anytime soon.

And the problem that I have with this post is misinformation, I feel like the OP didn't put much thought or effort into writing it

[Anonymous]

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[Sciphile]

So you keep a tab on the number of complaints too. Wow, I never had the time to do that but I'd like to take some time to answer or breakdown your arguements one by one.

1. First of all you say that the software is where the problem lies, then how come only certain devices are affected and some perform just fine. Take for example your own device, you said you never faced any issues in your note 10 but then why are some other note 10 users complaining about issues such as heating and battery drain. Did you get a different version of the software than those people? 

2. Talking about the update vanishing thing(This is why I said, you did poor research), Updates do not vanish in thin air. For A50 the update was called off by Samsung itself as some bugs were found. For the elite flagship some idiots didn't register for the beta program and sideloaded it from outside which is why they didn't receive any update. They were forced to update to the official firmware before updating. 

3. And yes, Samsung provides different firmwares for different devices, I just don't get it how come you are so oblivious to this fact. The firmware carries a specific kernel and drivers for a specific device. Even a computer noob knows that you can't install any driver software for the hardware to work you need a specific software for the hardware, Do you get it now? You need a specific software for specific hardware.

4. Talking about screen burn, again your knowledge on this matter how well informed you are in this regards. Screen burning are hardware issue not software issues. This is why i said, do some research, Go to Google and read about the screen burn in issues. A software might mitigate the issues but it happens in OLED panels as they age or if they are damaged. Display issues in any smartphones point out to the obvious fact that the display has been damaged. Please do your own research on this matter before commenting.

5. The other things that you have talked about holds no ground they are just baseless opinions regarding issues faced by users. If your wifi isn't working, so according to you its a one ui issue, about the camera quality being degraded its not caused by a bug, as Vishanavi pointed out its intentional on the OEMs part and everyone knows except you. 

6. And what is this heating causes distortion in camera? Are you even aware that a modern camera has a digital sensor and no it does not contain a photochemical film, i don't know you might be getting your information from Internet Explorer. Heating does cause issue with photochemical films but that technology is more than 30 years old. We are living in 21st century, this is why i said do some research before writing anything in this forum you prehistoric creature. Camera sensor in todays world has gone digital they don't experience any of the issue that you have talked about.

I have nothing against you, its just that i can't withstand misinformation and stupidity. I tried my best to breakdown your argument. I have no intentions to continue this conversation unless you DO SOME RESEARCH.

[hedgehog]

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